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Minutes:
There was one public question from Mr Alisdair Clark, who was late joining the meeting via TEAMs due to technical issues. His question was therefore read out by the clerk to the meeting, as follows:
Has NYCC shared with
all elected councillors a copy of all legal advice obtained by the council
relating to the Community Infrastructure Levy (CIL) Grant Scheme in Ryedale.
Can you please confirm who provided this advice, the total cost of this advice,
who requested this advice and who was it sanctioned by? Can NYCC guarantee
today that Ryedale’s Community Infrastructure Levy funds will be reserved for
community Infrastructure and spent within the Ryedale area in a timely manner
if they are not spent before vesting day and are transferred to NYC. Can you
please confirm the collective general position of North Yorkshire County
Council towards the applicants and existing recipients of Ryedale District
Council’s CIL fund?
Mr Clark joined the meeting as his question was being read out.
In response, Barry Khan, Assistant Chief Executive (Legal & Democratic Services) confirmed that legal advice had been requested by Ryedale District Council in October 2022, and that NYCC legal services had been provided the following advice in-house:
Section 24
of the Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Act 2007 provides the
Secretary of State may direct a relevant authority to obtain the written
consent of a District Council to enter into any capital contract under which
the consideration payable by the District Council exceeds £1m. (Section
24(1)(b)).
The
Secretary of State issued a Direction under Section 24 to state in effect a
District Council, being an authority which is to be dissolved, may not without
the consent of North Yorkshire County Council enter into a capital contract
exceeding £1m or a non-capital contract over £100,000 (subject to certain
conditions). Definition of capital
contract means a contract involving capital expenditure for the purposes under
Part 1 of the Local Government Act 2003.
Section
27(2) provides that “in determining whether the limit specified in a direction
by virtue of Section 24(1)(b) or (c) is exceeded in the case of a contract entered
into by a relevant authority (“the contract in question”), the consideration
payable by the relevant authority under any relevant contract shall be taken
into account”.
Section
27(3) provides that a relevant contract means a contract which is either or
both:
(a) a contract entered into after the 31st
December 2006 by the Council and the person with whom the contract in question
is entered into; and
(b) a contract entered into after that date by the
District Council which relates to the same or a similar description of matter
as that to which the contract in question relates.
Section
28(2) provides that any contract entered into by a district council in breach
of the Direction will not be enforceable against the new authority. Therefore if the District Council have
entered into contracts for similar descriptions as the CIL money will be spent
after 31st December 2006, and the total value of that land has
exceeded £1m, then any future contracts requires specific consent. It is noted
that the total CIL money by Ryedale already exceeds this amount.
Under the
general consent that was granted by the Executive on 23rd May 2022,
there was no consent granted for this particular transaction as the contracts
that were approved were specifically those included in the procurement forward
plan attached to the general consent. general consent link
Section
26(6) provides that where a question arises in relation to the value of any
consideration, then the value is to be determined by the Secretary of State.
Therefore
under the above Rules it is submitted that any decision to spend the circa £3m
capital CIL money will require Section 24 consent to enter into the relevant
agreements, even if each agreement is less than £1m. This will apply whether the money is given
under a contract, loan or grant (albeit the CIL funding will need to have
enforceable conditions to enable it to deliver the necessary infrastructure
requirements).
To make
sure the levy is open and transparent, the District Council must prepare short
report on the levy that gives information for the previous financial year. Ryedale’s Infrastructure Funding Statement
for 2021 states that:
“The work undertaken to
evidence delivery of the allocations (and the Ryedale Plan as a whole) has
identified that the key infrastructure requirement would be concerning primary
school provision, and that based on housing delivery at Malton and Norton a
site would be required to deliver a new primary school in either settlement,
depending on where the allocation is made.
“This site for a school
has been identified and allocated in the Development Plan as part of a housing
allocation in Norton (SD3).
“The value of the land
(educational value) will be a payment in kind and so any CIL payment will
factor this in. Collated CIL funds will
be utilised to help deliver the school.
“At the time of writing
this IFS, a planning application for the Norton allocation site, known as Land
Adjacent to Norton Lodge, Beverley Road is currently under consideration. It is expected that work with NYCC, the
Developer and the LPA will be taking place during the course of the
application, to establish the funding framework which will inform any decisions
around the timing and allocation of CIL funds.
Based on the initial submission information for the scheme, the proposal
is set to be CIL liable for roughly £2.3 million, subject to permission being
granted and any revisions made to the scheme.”
Therefore
the concerns are that the law regarding CIL, is that it must be spent on the
provision, improvement, replacement, operation or maintenance of public
infrastructure needed to support development of growth. Currently the District Council has identified
what projects would achieve this aim and there is concerns in opening up a new
set of applications from the public will give a unrealistic level of
expectation that their new projects that have not previously been identified
will be funded, when this is not the case.
County Councillor Gareth Dadd expressed confidence that the £3m capital CIL money would be spent on projects within the Ryedale District Council area and gave examples of the kinds of schemes that might benefit. He also drew attention to the financial challenges the new Authority would be facing over the next two years and therefore welcomed Section 24 consent being required.
He also recognised that elected members across the County would have to take some very serious decisions around the wellbeing of local communities going forward. Finally, he referred to the structural change order and noted that sovereignty only existed within the framework of the law, and as such he was confident that the Authority would take the correct decisions in the interests of the people of Ryedale and the wider communities of North Yorkshire.
County Councillor Carl Les confirmed there was review of assets ongoing cross North Yorkshire thanked Mr Clark for his contribution at the meeting.