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Public Participation

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Minutes:

Four public statements had been submitted:

 

·         By Jenny Hayward, Dr Jenny Marks and Ruth Lily, in relation to Minute 28.

·         By Hazel Peacock, in relation to Minute 28.

·         By Stephanie Talbot, in relation to Minute 28.

·         By Gia Margolis, in relation to Minute 28.

 

Statement submitted by Jenny Hayward, Dr Jenny Marks and Ruth Lily

 

We are calling once again for the full and expedited delivery of the South and West Harrogate 20mph Zone. Repeated delays to its implementation have left children and residents exposed to unnecessary risks, despite overwhelming community support for action.

 

Completion of Phase 2 has now been postponed until late 2026, far beyond the original 2024 target for implementation of the full scheme. In the meantime, roads with average speeds above 24mph remain unchanged, and traffic continues to speed in close proximity to children—placing them, and the wider public, at ongoing risk. This is particularly alarming given the serious accident involving two teenagers in February 2023, and the daily use of these roads by over 6,000 students from seven local schools, including Ashville, Rossett School, Rossett Acre Primary, Harrogate Grammar School, and Western Primary in the Pannal Ash Area, as well as St John Fisher’s and St Aiden’s in the Oatlands area. Many others also use these roads to get to sports and further education facilities in the area.

 

As a reminder, our application for a 20mph zone in the Pannal Ash Area was submitted in November 2022 under the Council’s own policy. North Yorkshire Council acknowledged the need for speed reduction and traffic calming measures in 2023, announcing the South and West Harrogate 20mph Scheme that September.

 

The initial plan was to start with Green Lane and Pannal Ash Road, with public consultation showing strong support for speed cushions & a reduction to 20mph: 94.3% of respondents from properties directly fronting Green Lane and 62.7% from Pannal Ash Road supported the proposals, with similarly high backing from neighbouring streets.

 

Despite this, in September 2024 the Council announced that they were not progressing with this plan, citing the need to redesign traffic calming infrastructure. More than a year later, the situation remains stagnant. The ongoing delay has been attributed to awaiting results from a sinusoidal cushion trial in York—even though such calming measures have long been used successfully elsewhere across the UK and Europe. Meanwhile, other counties have moved quickly: Ilkley, for example, progressed from consultation on speed cushions to implementation within just four months (October 2023 to February 2024).

 

Residents’ frustration is mounting. Testimonials from local families highlight daily anxiety about student safety and near misses “I can’t let my child walk, it’s just too risky’’ says one parent. “I was hit by the wing mirror of a car whilst I was walking my child to school” adds another resident.

 

In other parts of the country, we see school streets, targeted 20 mph zones, traffic calming measures (including sinusoidal cushions) and low traffic neighbourhoods becoming the norm, with measurable benefits in terms of safety, air quality, sense of place and general wellbeing. We in North Yorkshire are being left far behind.

 

As part of a recently established combined authority with fresh objectives for promoting active travel, we call on both the Council and the combined authority to demonstrate bold leadership and take decisive action to complete the South and West Harrogate 20mph scheme as soon as possible, instead of persisting with a partially implemented scheme that leaves residents and children exposed to speeding traffic.

 

Therefore, we ask:

 

What can be done to expedite the full delivery of the South and West Harrogate 20mph zone, so that this important safety measure is completed in full, rather than remaining a half-finished project that continues to put vulnerable groups at risk?

 

The following response was provided by Highways:

 

Officers continue to work on this, but it is vital that traffic calming measures implemented are robust to reduce the speed and ensure any implemented 20mph are self-enforcing, this is paramount to ensure the safety of our vulnerable groups long term. These measures will vary in design depending on the site.

 

NYC officers have had initial discussions with colleagues in the police regarding the designs and further work will be taking place in December and January to ensure to ensure we have engineering solutions that will bring those speeds down.

 

Officers can offer reassurances that we will work to the timescales and offer updates on progress to the March committee.

 

In a supplementary question, it was noted that sinusoidal cushions had been used in Edinburgh in 1995 and that research had been ongoing for a considerable period.  A query was made as to whether a resourcing issue existed that could be addressed by the council or combined authority, as the situation did not convey a sense of urgency.

 

It was agreed that officers would provide a response in writing.

 

Statement submitted by Hazel Peacock

 

Will this committee support a bid ready road safety and active travel scheme and seek to address barriers in NYC policy to realise it?

 

In 2023, over 900 people signed the petition for the 20mph scheme for southwest Harrogate which included Leadhall Lane, Hookstone Road, Hookstone Drive, Otley Road, and a key urban section of Leeds Road.

 

These roads were not progressed due to NYC policy and the NYC classification of them as “strategic”, but most are C roads (Leadhall Lane, Hookstone Rd & Drive) and none are on the Key Route Network. Given 20mph is being rolled out on red routes in London, it would appear these policy and classification barriers are immaterial.

 

With six schools, colleges, shops, and businesses situated on or just off them, the roads are used every day by thousands of schoolchildren and community members Yet, daily risks are faced on them due to speeding, risky driving and driver mobile phone use, all putting lives in danger.

 

Leadhall Lane is 1km long. With no crossing’s schoolchildren are forced to dash across it at their peril. Otley Road has witnessed serious and even fatal collisions and is a key route to Harrogate Grammar School. On Hookstone Road, Oatlands Infant School has reported three near misses in the last year, and in January 2024, a young person suffered serious injuries at the Hornbeam Park Train Station crossing due to a collision at three-thirty in the afternoon.

 

Police and NYC data shows the 85th percentile speeds to be 40/40 mph on Leadhall Lane, 40/36 mph on Hookstone Drive, 35/30 mph on Hookstone Road, 32/31 mph on Otley Road, and 32/33 mph on Leeds Road.

 

TfL evidence shows a person hit by a vehicle at 30mph is up to five times more likely to be killed than if they were hit at 20mph, meaning children and community are at continued risk on these roads.

 

This is compounded with evidence in the British Medical Journal (BMJ) this month citing a 44% relative increase in the likelihood of death for an adult pedestrian or cyclist hit by a SUV or similarly large car compared with a standard car, and for children an 82%, relative increase in the likelihood of death. Evidence which is especially alarming considering Harrogate is listed in the top 20 UK locations for SUV ownership (ref: Climate charity Possible).

 

The appetite for active travel is growing in our community – the Oatlands Bike Bus has seen 1,000 journeys in the past year and there is enormous opportunity for change, but road safety is a continued barrier.

 

We ask you to join us in putting children and community at the heart of decision making and support the delivery of this scheme.

 

Thank you.

 

The following response was provided from Highways:

 

We note your suggestion of developing a bid ready active travel scheme, however the decision not to include Leeds Road, Wetherby Road, Otley Road, Hookstone Drive, Hookstone Drive and Leadhall Lane was not due to budgetary constraints, it is due to the classification and use of these roads in line with NYC’s policy. A detailed review of this matter was reported to Area Committee last November, these roads are either category 2 or category 3a roads (which are classed as Strategic Distributor or Main Distributer roads) in Harrogate. These category roads perform a key function in the overall road network and are either strategic routes or link urban centres to the strategic network. In urban areas in particular, speed limits are usually 40 mph or less, parking is restricted at peak times and there are positive measures for pedestrian safety. This general description of a category 3a road does represent the function of Hookstone Road and Hookstone Drive, as they form a key link between the two strategic roads (Wetherby Road and Leeds Road) and there are already some positive measures for pedestrian safety, mainly through several signalised crossing points along this corridor.  Leadhall Lane is a category 3b road with no natural trip attractors, it is also considered that achieving a self-enforcing 20mph zone in this area would not be achievable. This decision is further reinforced when considering the existing vehicle speeds in all of these locations.

 

A decision not to proceed with 20mph and required Traffic calming  on the strategic routes is in line by NYC’s 20mph policy.

 

In a supplementary question, it was asked why Red Routes in London were subject to a 20 miles per hour programme for road safety, active travel, and air quality, whereas in North Yorkshire a 20 miles per hour limit on a C or B road was not considered possible.

 

It was agreed that officers would provide a response in writing.

 

Statement submitted by Stephanie Talbot

 

This is in relation to the delay of works and implementation around the Phase 2 area.

 

Imagine for just one second that you could be the decision maker for keeping the streets safer by reducing the speed of vehicles?

 

Now imagine that that process takes at least 4 years to complete.

 

During that time a child walking on those streets has started and almost left high school. That’s the reality of my youngest child.

 

He no longer walks to school, he used to, until his older brother got hit whilst walking on the pavement to school and witnessing it. His parents are too scared to let him walk, as the devastation of the accident caused our families life to shatter.

 

Now imagine a girl who had her first car for one month before it got destroyed by the very same vehicle that hit her brother and his friend. She eventually got another car but the mental toll it took on her, she’d only just stopped therapy this year, two and a half years later.

 

A few months after this, another speeding vehicle, the very people that are meant to protect you, the police, crashes her car off the road whilst travelling in the wrong lane. Her car rolls over 4 to 5 times. Another car destroyed and more trauma for her and our family again. She was very lucky not to have been killed or to have killed someone walking on the pavement, as her car landed in a garden.

 

Would you imagine this to be in your town? Because both accidents are within 5 mins drive of our house. So now we have to travel on 2 of our nearest roads and see the scenes almost every day.

 

All because no one can make immediate decisions within the council that could prevent accidents like these. Speed kills, injures and destroys lives.

 

I cannot comprehend how a council can ever get anything done if a decision about reducing speed for a certain section of the community takes 4 years considering there have been 2 major incidents in its location (Otley Road and Yew Tree Lane)

 

I have no faith in your system. I live with the fact that our roads are dangerous. I feel like living in this town, the council favours cars and convenience over its people.

 

I hope you feel safe walking on the pavements around Harrogate because I don’t.

 

It was agreed that officers would provide a response in writing.

 

Statement submitted by Gia Margolis

 

Good Morning,

 

I would like to commend Jasmin and her team for the delivery of two schemes. Victoria Avenue, resurfaced, with improved crossings for pedestrians and cyclists. The original bid for Victoria Avenue was for cycle lanes but as happens with great regularity these were stripped out. Promises for future implementation are unlikely to materialize.

 

Victoria Avenue improvements would have had much more benefit for cyclists if the Beech Grove scheme had remained in place. It was safe for cyclists, had more supporters than detractors. It was hampered due to the failure to introduce the Victoria Road plug which would have stopped the rat run. The promise of a replacement scheme has never materialized and the battle for space from parked cars, and speeding cars using the road as a rat run means that this part of the cycle network is unsafe and broken. The council should be bold and reintroduce this inexpensive, simple design.

 

Wetherby Road crossing

 

Again great credit and thanks to Jasmin for steering through this project and listening to suggestions along the way. It is a far better design than the one planned back in 2014.

 

Active Travel Team

 

There is no mention in the report of the Active Travel Team. This has been promised for several years but is yet to be announced.

 

West of Harrogate

 

This is referred to in the Active Travel report with works due to be delivered in Summer 2026.

 

Where can the public see the designs?

 

Will there be consultations?

 

The last engagement looking at Draft  mitigation schemes was in September 2023. All designs are focused on getting more traffic through junctions. There were no cycle schemes other than those within the developments. How many of the councillors are aware that Trinity Road is to become an official rat run? That in every design pedestrian space is being taken away for more vehicles. Have the councillors looked at the plans? I recommend you read the HDCA report.

 

How does North Yorkshire plan to deal with the ever increasing number of vehicles squeezing through our narrow lanes and congested streets? Where are the active travel projects in place to help modal shift and the messaging to ask people to walk cycle or take the bus if they can.

 

The only signs we see at the moment are studies on traffic flow and altering junctions to get more cars through. As this has been the strategy for the last 20 years and congestion has got worse what real vision do the council have to make a difference?

 

The next phase of work in Harrogate is centred around the ever increasing number of developments but not one of them has any safe continuous cycle route to access the town. Current schemes are already being met with  “too difficult to achieve”  Councillors we need you to challenge and help to bring about change.

 

It was agreed that officers would provide a response in writing.